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[luminous]

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Fusionxf .com

[TWD_Tony]

Moved to the advertising forum...

I have a couple of questions (well a few actually)

• Company Location?
• Server Location / Spec?
• How do you / fusionfx.com generate income?
• Seeing as everything is "unlimited" - Is the server located in pixie-land and sprinkled with magic dust every morning?

Everything has finite limits (even the universe) so what makes fusionfx's server(s) exempt from this law of physic's

[luminous]

Originally Posted by TWD_Tony

Moved to the advertising forum...

I have a couple of questions (well a few actually)

• Company Location?
• Server Location / Spec?
• How do you / fusionfx.com generate income?
• Seeing as everything is "unlimited" - Is the server located in pixie-land and sprinkled with magic dust every morning?

Everything has finite limits (even the universe) so what makes fusionfx's server(s) exempt from this law of physic's

Server is paid from my pocket. Dontations help to cover some costs. You can see more info about the server on fusionxf.com
there is no "hidden" things, if thats what your trying to get at.

Law of physics does not apply to webhosting, unless my website has a displacement of some sort, or maybe you want to calculate the Gravitational Potential Energy

Server is located in the usa, has fast load times around the world, as i live in the uk. Basicly as it says, unlimited space and bandwidth, but if you read the small print, you will understand that you cannot abuse, and im aware of abusers
Personal sites, blogs forums etc, are welcome. Pretty much you could do any website.

Now maybe your thinking how i can do all of this for free? Well as i mentioned donations, always appreciated from satissfied customers, and ofcourse my pocket.

[luminous]

As i could not edit my message after 15minutes, forgot to add that yes its unlimited space and bandwidth, space will never end, bandwidth will need approx 1000more users or so, before i might have to close registrations or upgrade the bandwidth.

[TWD_Tony]

space will never end

So exactly HOW does that work then?

If you have a "unlimited capacity" hard drive installed then please send me the ebay link so I can buy one...

As you can tell (and most people who know me will testify) I HATE UNLIMITED HOSTING OFFERS. They should be banned under the trades description act.
I have heard all the arguements before - some guy on another forum even tried boasting he owned the DC and could add unlimited hard drive arrays to a powerful server cluster he had... pleeeeease

As a moderator on WHW I could delete this thread and put an end to this ridiculous "unlimited" claim... But in the interests of fairness and an open market I will let the people decide.

[luminous]

Originally Posted by TWD_Tony

So exactly HOW does that work then?

If you have a "unlimited capacity" hard drive installed then please send me the ebay link so I can buy one...

As you can tell (and most people who know me will testify) I HATE UNLIMITED HOSTING OFFERS. They should be banned under the trades description act.
I have heard all the arguements before - some guy on another forum even tried boasting he owned the DC and could add unlimited hard drive arrays to a powerful server cluster he had... pleeeeease

As a moderator on WHW I could delete this thread and put an end to this ridiculous "unlimited" claim... But in the interests of fairness and an open market I will let the people decide.

The company i buy the server from ensures that i will not run out of space, as long you stick to "fair usage policy" which ive never had a problem with.
• A Privately Owned State of the Art Data Center
• Connectivity Through Multiple Tier-1 Backbone Providers
• Redundant Diesel Generators (We are NEVER without power!)
fusionxf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205 - Terms of service, if you have any more questions just look here.

Or instead of saying "unlimited" what about 9999999999999999gb ?

[TWD_Tony]

Or instead of saying "unlimited" what about 9999999999999999gb ?

That's the problem... you cannot get anywhere close to a 9999999999999999gb hard drive in a single server. You say the company that you rent "the server" from says that it will NEVER run out of space? If you fill the hard drive until there is no more room then you... run out of space!
I understand the "unlimited" business model - you are working on the theory that you can but lots and lots of website's on the server and that these website's will never use a lot of space because of the "fair use policy". But this is NOT unlimited is it?
You are limiting what a client can put on their account by your own fair use policy... I have not read your policy but I am betting that it goes something along the lines of... "all files must be for use by the website (no storage)" etc etc etc....?????
What if I wanted to host a youtube kind of video posting website? Would your server cope with the huge storage and MASSIVE bandwidth that I would require?

If unlimited was indeed possible then companies like Google wouldn't spend millions of dollars on server farms - and have the need to keep adding more, the fact is that once you use the resources you have... you have hit the limit

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this...

[luminous]

Originally Posted by TWD_Tony

That's the problem... you cannot get anywhere close to a 9999999999999999gb hard drive in a single server. You say the company that you rent "the server" from says that it will NEVER run out of space? If you fill the hard drive until there is no more room then you... run out of space!
I understand the "unlimited" business model - you are working on the theory that you can but lots and lots of website's on the server and that these website's will never use a lot of space because of the "fair use policy". But this is NOT unlimited is it?
You are limiting what a client can put on their account by your own fair use policy... I have not read your policy but I am betting that it goes something along the lines of... "all files must be for use by the website (no storage)" etc etc etc....?????
What if I wanted to host a youtube kind of video posting website? Would your server cope with the huge storage and MASSIVE bandwidth that I would require?

If unlimited was indeed possible then companies like Google wouldn't spend millions of dollars on server farms - and have the need to keep adding more, the fact is that once you use the resources you have... you have hit the limit

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this...

I would agree. The company says you can have any files on the server as long as its for your website, and technically speaking you could have youtube site, but probably you would not make it that big to use up all my bandwidth :P .. youtube will overpower if you think about it, google have youtube now, and they have $$$.

Im not wrong in saying its unlimited as everyone does that. You just have to read the small print. But still you will get as much space as you need as long as it fits in with the policy, you could use up as much space as you want, as long as you have the files indexed the files on a html page, available publicly or privately (if you are using ALLOT of space). As for bandwidth being unlimited, i could say its unlimited, as if i run out, i can pay for the extra bandwidth, but i still more than enough bandwidth to support my websites + a few thousand more..

Im providing this for the public for no financial or marketing gain, im not getting anything from this, this is a convinience for normal web users who want a website, with a catchy name and no adds. Which is rare to find these days. Usually there is some sort of catch.
Now that i think about it, it just uses up my personal time to set everything up. Being generous i can spend some of my time and share.

[monaghan]

Unlimited is incorrect and not possible as Tony has suggested, why not describe it correctly as "no preset package limit with fair use policy".

The problem is that every "kiddie host" offers unlimited this and unlimited that these days knowing full well that they can't provide, but the punters will roll in anyway as they no know better.

If you genuinely want to succeed, then be honest up front, your users (possibly customers) will respect you for this, if they don't then they're not really the sort of customer you really want to have anyway

[luminous]

Originally Posted by monaghan

Unlimited is incorrect and not possible as Tony has suggested, why not describe it correctly as "no preset package limit with fair use policy".

The problem is that every "kiddie host" offers unlimited this and unlimited that these days knowing full well that they can't provide, but the punters will roll in anyway as they no know better.

If you genuinely want to succeed, then be honest up front, your users (possibly customers) will respect you for this, if they don't then they're not really the sort of customer you really want to have anyway

Its not like i made the word up :P but it does not have limits if your sensible, and its always good to feel free, and not to worry about any space or bandwidth problems. Unlimited summarises "no preset package limit with fair use policy". - That is real long and lenghty :/

[monaghan]

Many forums ban the advertisement of "unlimited" adverts.

You may imply restrictions, but the wording still states unlimited. At the end of the day, we can only offer advise, whether you take it is up to you. Hope your bills are not too high when you get abused by a warez or spamer's site taking you up on the unlimited offer.

[luminous]

Originally Posted by monaghan

Many forums ban the advertisement of "unlimited" adverts.

Hope your bills are not too high when you get abused by a warez or spamer's site taking you up on the unlimited offer.

Speculating.. warez sites are not allowed. Im not dumb to allow "dumb" behaviour. Peace.

[TWD_Tony]

Just out of idle curiosity - How do you control WHAT a client puts on their account? How do you know that they are not hosting lots of high volume downloads until it is too late

I could sign up for an account and upload a simple "homepage" but in the background upload several large .iso, .zip or .rar files for the masses to download... Unless you are monitoring the bandwidth constantly then you would not know a thing until I had used quite a few Gb's of bandwidth.

[luminous]

Originally Posted by TWD_Tony

Just out of idle curiosity - How do you control WHAT a client puts on their account? How do you know that they are not hosting lots of high volume downloads until it is too late

I could sign up for an account and upload a simple "homepage" but in the background upload several large .iso, .zip or .rar files for the masses to download... Unless you are monitoring the bandwidth constantly then you would not know a thing until I had used quite a few Gb's of bandwidth.

was nice talking to you. this conversation is not going anywhere.

[monaghan]

Originally Posted by luminous

was nice talking to you. this conversation is not going anywhere.

Best of luck with your venture, hope it all works out and you don't hit the problems that have been suggested.

[luminous]

Originally Posted by monaghan

Best of luck with your venture, hope it all works out and you don't hit the problems that have been suggested.

Cheers. There is always people who cause problems, thats life.

[TWD_Tony]

Originally Posted by luminous

was nice talking to you. this conversation is not going anywhere.

Actually I thought this conversation WAS going somewhere - I only asked a simple question you know...

If you are going to advertise something that simply isn't physically possible then you should expect just a few questions!...

[luminous]

Originally Posted by TWD_Tony

Actually I thought this conversation WAS going somewhere - I only asked a simple question you know...

If you are going to advertise something that simply isn't physically possible then you should expect just a few questions!...

I have everything under control. dont believe it, just delete this topic, thanks.

[monaghan]

The topic won't be deleted, as it will help those researching your hosting offerings in their research / decision making process.

[luminous]

It seems that you think that this is not bogus then. Good to hear.